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Monday, January 5, 2015

New STUART kit #B12713 matches ELDER of "FRANKLIN CO PA"

NEW Kit #B12713 posted on ELDER DNA project chart with ancestor
"Donald STUART b1757 - d1826 Banffshire, Scotland,"
 has recently joined the ELDER DNA PROJECT and the SCOTTISH DNA PROJECT.
 Not matching any other STEWART/STUART kits,
does match all our "FRANKLIN COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA" ELDER DNA group,
which includes my brother's kit #10042.

I am especially interested in the BANFFSHIRE SCOTLAND location, after researching
the ELDER name there. 
My ELDER research notes for BANFF posted on Freepages
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Banff.htm

Includes Notes:
ELDER at Culloden:
"John Elder, servant at Park, Banff, to Sir William Gordon of Park."
From Google Books:
   "Muster roll of Prince Charles Edward Stuart's army, 1745-46"
http://books.google.com/books?id=lFaCAAAAIAAJ&q=ELDER

also Google Books:
http://tinyurl.com/kfwr2vb
TRANSCRIPT OF ALL THE MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS WITHIN THE
CHURCHYARD OF BANFF.       With Photos of Cemetery, sent by Ann Elder Norz

Also in Banff Cemetery:
(35) Here lies inter'd the body of John Stewart, an honest,
 faithful and affectionate servant to the family of Findlater
 for above 14 years, he died the 12th day of June, 1777.

Search for Donald Stuart b 1757 [d Banffshire]
Birth 17 Jan 1757 in Delnadave, Strathdon and Corgarff, Scotland
Death 02 Jan 1826 in Tomintoul, Banffshire, Scotland
found in Ancestry.com Tree
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/72405412/person/34255830335
by "bstuart2919"  (no Elder in list)

CORGARFF Castle is located in Aberdeenshire, north-east Scotland.
 It stands by the Lecht road, which crosses the pass between Strathdon and Tomintoul.

TOMINTOUL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomintoul
  "The village was laid out on a grid pattern by the 4th Duke of Gordon in 1775…."


---Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder

Friday, August 29, 2014

ELDER webpage links

RE: ELDER WEBPAGES in addition to this BLOG:

   My favorite to read and answer queries ---
 so many are still posted on the public ELDER Rootsweb Board
at
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.elder/mb.ashx

The "ELDER GENFORUM" ARCHIVE will be available to
 search after September, but not posting:
at
http://genforum.genealogy.com/elder

 "ELDER FAMILY RESEARCH BULLETIN BOARD," another favorite--
now for searching many archival notes, first posted by the late DONNA LOGAN.  Registration is free.
I am adding notes and answering queries for all ELDER lines sent there.
Especially adding ELDER DNA info
at
http://www.familytrail.com/elder/bb/viewforum.php?f=15

YAHOO GROUPS has the "Catholic ELDER of Maryland" Discussion group
at
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DescendantsofWilliamElderMD/info

Timothy Gallagher posted another FACEBOOK page for "CATHOLIC ELDER."
Members are posting their ELDER REUNION photos from Kentucky 2014:
at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/249721628428319

FACEBOOK "GROUPS" page by KEN ELDER, he titled: "ELDER GENEALOGY"
at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/117765545226

 FACEBOOK page for "PETER ELDER of VIRGINIA" DNA group--mostly from Descendants living in South Carolina, posted by Linda TESENAIR.
 She titled hers: "ELDER CLAN." 
 Some photos posted for their "PETER ELDER" family reunion 2014 in South Carolina,
at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/428497867259834

Saturday, July 26, 2014

Handwritten certificate for Commander Benjamin John ELDER, Isle of Skye

 "MastersandMates" record for Cmd (Commander Benjamin John ELDER, Isle of Skye)
from Ancestry.com Database
Posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/MastersandMatesCmdCertBenjaminJohnElder.jpg

More about ELDER in Isle of Skye:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Skye.htm

ELDER Y-DNA kit #342842 matches "ROYAL STEWART" kits

ELDER DNA project has received a quite different ELDER Y-DNA kit, #342842,
now located on ELDER Y-DNA chart as "Z21-ROYAL STEWART,"
which mostly matches STEWART/STUART names, including one which
says his ancestor is "Walter, 1st High Steward of Scotland, died 1177."

Other matching kits are found on ROYAL STEWART DNA project
at
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/stuart

For example:
Kit #224095 Ancestor: "John STEWART b. 1764 in PA or Donegal Ire."
also listed on WorldConnect, by Michael STEWART
at
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stewdbkr&id=I15
JOHN STEWART:
Birth: 1764 in Carnemauga, Green Hill, County Donegal, Ireland
Death: 24 MAR 1847 in Mill Creek, Erie Co., PA
Burial: Erie Cemetery Section 17, Lot 121

RE: Marriage of DAVID ELDER and
MARGERY STEWART, who lived in FRANKLIN COUNTY PA, posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/StewartDonegal.htm

MARGERY STEWART
is traced……to:

# ID: I225
# Name: Walter 1st High Steward of Scotland Fitzalan
# Sex: M
Father: Alan Thane of Lochaber
Mother: Adelina of Oswestry
Marriage 1 Eschyna de Molle
Children
   1.  Alan 2nd High Steward of Scotland Fitzwalter
   2. Marjory Fitzalan

CHARLTON-ELDER Family Tree, by BRNRUBR
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/20020255/person/884093961
traced to:
John Elder Sr
Birth 1762 in Chester County, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 19 Jan 1835 in Salona, Lamar Twp, Centre, Pennsylvania, USA

STEWART index on Ancestry.com Tree:
Stewart, Arminta Myrtle 
19 Jul 1870 - Westover, Clearfield, Pennsylvania, USA
10 Feb 1960 - Marion Center, Indiana, Pennsylvania, USA
Stewart, Elizabeth  Aug 1859 - Pennsylvania
Stewart, Howard M  Sep 1854 - Pennsylvania
Stewart, Lora Dale  8 Jul 1900 - North Carolina, United States
8 Sep 1992 - Jackson, North Carolina, United States
Stewart, Raymond F

Friday, July 11, 2014

"PETER ELDER" kit #35714 now reports SNP R-DF49+ and R-DF13+

"PETER ELDER" Kit #35714 on HAPLOTREE REPORT PAGE
  now says:
SNP Tests Taken show PLUS for DF49+, DF13+

Checking the category in the R-L21 Study, to see if this "PETER ELDER" Kit #35714
 is moved up with JOHNSTON kit #90660 category on page 4
at
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r-l21/default.aspx?section=yresults

    YES!  Now both are placed in the same category,
which has been changed and shortened slightly, to show mostly the 49+ (PLUS) SNP's:
See Category:
     x10. DF49+(L21>DF13>DF49; check 49+ SNPs)

   "PETER ELDER" kit #35714 matches JOHNSTON kit #90660 with
101 of 111 markers. 
    Also matches JOHNSTONE kit #224025 of Lockerbie Scotland
with 61 of 67 markers.
    Close markers and SNP's may help place these families as all locating
 in the southwest coast of Scotland.

JOHNSTONE of Lockerbie article in Wikipedia
at
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockerbie
Found in Dumfries & Galloway, Scotland, on the West Coast near Borders:
 ....  "Lockerbie House is an important establishment within Lockerbie, in the past having owned most of the land and housing within the town mainly through the Johnstone Baronets and Douglas family."
…"About 3 kilometres to the west of Lockerbie on 7 December 1593, Clan Johnstone fought Clan Maxwell at the Battle of Dryfe Sands. The Johnstones nearly exterminated the Maxwells involved in the battle, leading to the proverbial expression "Lockerbie Lick."

Saturday, March 8, 2014

SNP STUDY for "PAXTANG PENNSYLVANIA" kits - I2b1-M223

SNP STUDY FOR I2b1-M223 -  "PAXTANG PENNSYLVANIA" Page 3
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/m223-y-clan

Includes GILLESPIE with Big-Y SNP order:
Category:
I2a M223>M284>L1195>L369/L137/L126 Isles-Scot, Kittler 16-15 (Grp 1)
28 GILLESPIE

Kit #'s
B6098     SamGillespieb1720 IRE>Sam1742UlsterCoNY>Ste BigYp   Ire I2b1
and
159247     SamGillespieb1720 IRE>Sam1742UlsterCoNY>Steb1777NY   
                Northern Ireland     I2b1

Dr. Tyrone BOWES uses DNA for Scotland origins

    "PAXTANG PENNSYLVANIA" ELDER researchers living in Portland have invited me to a lecture on March 15, 10 am, at Marylhurst University,  given by Dr. Tyrone BOWES.  He has been encouraging DNA tests from FamilyTreeDNA and writing case studies about  SCOTTISH and IRISH family ORIGINS.

I finished downloading and reading all 13 of the .pdf files posted by
Dr. Tyrone BOWES in his SCOTTISH Origines webpages
at
http://www.scottishorigenes.com/case-studies

I didn't find any ELDER names, but I believe that the TERRY story
is the closest to the DNA grouping for "PAXTANG PA" ELDER.

 I recognized McNEILL and the ISLES from
Alasdair MacDonald's I2b1-L126 Viking information, which is
also in "PAXTANG PA" DNA.

CASE STUDY 8:
  "Norse-Gaels and hired Mercenaries from the Highlands and Islands!"

Dr. Tyrone BOWES wrote:
    "A commercial ancestral 37 marker Y chromosome DNA test will potentially provide one with the names of many hundreds of individuals with whom one shares a common male ancestor, but what often perplexes people is how one can match many individuals with different surnames? The answer is quite simple. Roughly 1,000 years ago one's direct medieval male ancestor, the first for example to call himself 'McNeill' was living in close proximity to others with whom he was related but who picked other surnames like McIntyre, McLaren, and Gillespie. Given that 1,000 years have passed since surnames were adopted, there will be many descendants of these individuals some of whom will today undergo commercial ancestral DNA testing.
Hence the surnames of one's medieval ancestor's neighbours will be reflected in
today's DNA test results.

SURNAME: Terry - A Case Study  (.pdf file)  -- 30th July 2012
by Dr. Tyrone BOWES
"Figure 4: The Clan territories of the Western Isles of Scotland.
     "Mr Terry's Genetic Homeland (orange broken circle) is situated in the Western Isles of Scotland in the ancient Clan territory of the McNeill's which surrounds the ruins of Castle Swin on the Kintyre peninsula.
 It is here that the McNeill farming community could be found in 1841 farming the lands of their ancestors and surrounded by the ancient Clan territories of their genetic cousins the McInnes, McIntyre's, McLaren, and MacDonald's (red arrows)."