Hi folks,
Today I added "ELDERS with an S" kit #219446 (37 markers)
to the ScottishDNA chart
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Scottishdna
With the kit owner's permission,
I have also ordered the Deep Clade test ($89) for that kit.
His DNA doesn't match any other ELDER kit, not even the "PAXTANG PA" kits with I2b1 group. Their TIP comparison says:
"In comparing Y-DNA37 markers, which show 17 mismatches, the probability that (kit #17814) (PAXTANG PA) and (kit #219446) (ELDERS) shared a common ancestor ....is 0.00%
---Nancy Elder Petersen, Host ELDER DNA project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
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Thursday, March 15, 2012
Sunday, January 29, 2012
"ELDERS with an S" posted on Facebook
Today I posted a query for "ELDERS with an s" on the Facebook page for "Guild of One-Name Studies" server in London.
RE: ELDER/ELDERS Looking for connections to "ELDERS with an S" in Yorkshire.
Notes posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AlvinMartinELDERS.htm
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/ELDERSofYorkshire.htm
ELDERS (DNA kit in USA = I2b1)
Surname in Yorkshire - in "NORTH OF ENGLAND DNA STUDY" by Dr. Turi KING and others.
ELDERS as Eligible name listed, maybe Viking origins
at
http://leicestersurnamesproject.org.uk
RE: ELDER/ELDERS Looking for connections to "ELDERS with an S" in Yorkshire.
Notes posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AlvinMartinELDERS.htm
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/ELDERSofYorkshire.htm
ELDERS (DNA kit in USA = I2b1)
Surname in Yorkshire - in "NORTH OF ENGLAND DNA STUDY" by Dr. Turi KING and others.
ELDERS as Eligible name listed, maybe Viking origins
at
http://leicestersurnamesproject.org.uk
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Tuesday, November 1, 2011
MAINE ELDER DNA
Adding notes for MAINE DNA matches
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Maine.htm
ELDER of Montana, USA on Featherstone webpages,
at new webpage titled INDEXES for a newsletter titled "FEATHERSTONE FINDINGS" by JOYCE HAWKINS
at
http://www.featherstone-society.com/Indexes/index.htm
Sarah "Sallie" Elizabeth Featherston - b. 16 Jun 1843 Carroll Co., MO, d. 14 Dec 1902 Carroll Co., MO: Christian; m. 16 Jun 1874 Hartline WA (at Martin Featherston's) to John James Elder - b. 7 Sep 1843 Madison co., KY, d. 19 Nov 1923 Eugene Township. WA, bur. Elder burial grounds; moved to Carroll' Co., MO 1850; progressive farmer; s/o Robert Elder/Nancy Mills. John James Elder m.l) Nanny Winfrey; m.3) Mrs. Letha Trougough; m.4) Mrs. Alice Kelly
More Research by JOYCE HAWKINS on FEATHERSTONE webpages,
see a familiar location listed for ELDER surname in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England,
at
http://www.featherstone-society.com/Indexes/index.htm
ENTER ELDER in search box:
found:
http://www.featherstone-society.com/All%20World-o/p434.htm
FIND ELDER:
Ann Elder
F, #6510, b. circa 1793, d. December 1881
Reference P2216
"Ann Elder was born circa 1793 at Newcastle, Northumberland, England.1 She married John Featherston on 31 January 1818 at Gateshead, Co Durham, England; This is the closest marriage on the IGI - John Featherstone and Ann Elder - but I do need more proof but it fits as first child Barbara was baptised in Newcastle 29 December 1818.2 Ann Elder death was registerd in the Newcastle upon Tyne registration district in the quarter of December 1881.3...."
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Maine.htm
ELDER of Montana, USA on Featherstone webpages,
at new webpage titled INDEXES for a newsletter titled "FEATHERSTONE FINDINGS" by JOYCE HAWKINS
at
http://www.featherstone-society.com/Indexes/index.htm
Sarah "Sallie" Elizabeth Featherston - b. 16 Jun 1843 Carroll Co., MO, d. 14 Dec 1902 Carroll Co., MO: Christian; m. 16 Jun 1874 Hartline WA (at Martin Featherston's) to John James Elder - b. 7 Sep 1843 Madison co., KY, d. 19 Nov 1923 Eugene Township. WA, bur. Elder burial grounds; moved to Carroll' Co., MO 1850; progressive farmer; s/o Robert Elder/Nancy Mills. John James Elder m.l) Nanny Winfrey; m.3) Mrs. Letha Trougough; m.4) Mrs. Alice Kelly
More Research by JOYCE HAWKINS on FEATHERSTONE webpages,
see a familiar location listed for ELDER surname in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England,
at
http://www.featherstone-society.com/Indexes/index.htm
ENTER ELDER in search box:
found:
http://www.featherstone-society.com/All%20World-o/p434.htm
FIND ELDER:
Ann Elder
F, #6510, b. circa 1793, d. December 1881
Reference P2216
"Ann Elder was born circa 1793 at Newcastle, Northumberland, England.1 She married John Featherston on 31 January 1818 at Gateshead, Co Durham, England; This is the closest marriage on the IGI - John Featherstone and Ann Elder - but I do need more proof but it fits as first child Barbara was baptised in Newcastle 29 December 1818.2 Ann Elder death was registerd in the Newcastle upon Tyne registration district in the quarter of December 1881.3...."
Friday, July 8, 2011
ELDER research in Kinross-shire Scotland
ELDER Research in Kinross-shire, Scotland, adding to
notes on webpages
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/KinrossCensus.htm
Trudy Mitchell's Ancestry Family Tree:
Robert Elder (b. 1837 Orwell, Kinross-shire, Scotland - d. 1907 Peebles)
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/17883197/person/570487934
*****
LDS Familysearch.org:
Name: Robert Elder
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Aug 1837
Baptism/Christening Place: ORWELL, KINROSS, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 06 Jan 1837
Father's Name: Robert Elder
Mother's Name: Elisabeth Scott
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11463-4
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 1040204
****
Photo of Robert Elder (1837-1907) and wife Margaret McGregor (about age 60)
Taken about 1897 in Peebles.
permission by owner, Trudy Mitchell
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/RobertElder1837Kinross.jpg
notes on webpages
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/KinrossCensus.htm
Trudy Mitchell's Ancestry Family Tree:
Robert Elder (b. 1837 Orwell, Kinross-shire, Scotland - d. 1907 Peebles)
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/17883197/person/570487934
*****
LDS Familysearch.org:
Name: Robert Elder
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Aug 1837
Baptism/Christening Place: ORWELL, KINROSS, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 06 Jan 1837
Father's Name: Robert Elder
Mother's Name: Elisabeth Scott
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11463-4
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 1040204
****
Photo of Robert Elder (1837-1907) and wife Margaret McGregor (about age 60)
Taken about 1897 in Peebles.
permission by owner, Trudy Mitchell
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/RobertElder1837Kinross.jpg
Friday, April 15, 2011
ISLE of SKYE and McGREGOR match at 62 of 67 markers
Today we received the complete 67 markers for
kit #172862, YSEARCH Code 9YGHH,
a descendant of ELDER family living in Isle of Skye,
to compare with other kits in YSEARCH.
Now using 67 markers and maximum of 6 genetic distance
See new Y-CHART:
at
http://tinyurl.com/3p5mqq7
McGregor matches at 5 genetic distance, and other surnames match at 6.
9YGHH - Elder - Isle of Skye, Scotland - R1b1a2 - 67
Q5BR3 - Livingston - Isle of Lismore (near Oban) [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
3Y65B - Lee - Rensselarville, Albany, NY - R1b1a2a1a1b4 - 67 - 6
WSUYD - McGregor - Brig o' Turk (near Stirling) - R1b1a2a1a1b4 - 67 - 5
SN67J - McCoy - [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
CH7YZ - Buchanan - Northern Ireland - [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
2BB3C - Pomeroy - Dayton, Ohio, USA [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
2XD3U - L21 Scot at 67 [modal] - Scotland - [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
--Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
kit #172862, YSEARCH Code 9YGHH,
a descendant of ELDER family living in Isle of Skye,
to compare with other kits in YSEARCH.
Now using 67 markers and maximum of 6 genetic distance
See new Y-CHART:
at
http://tinyurl.com/3p5mqq7
McGregor matches at 5 genetic distance, and other surnames match at 6.
9YGHH - Elder - Isle of Skye, Scotland - R1b1a2 - 67
Q5BR3 - Livingston - Isle of Lismore (near Oban) [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
3Y65B - Lee - Rensselarville, Albany, NY - R1b1a2a1a1b4 - 67 - 6
WSUYD - McGregor - Brig o' Turk (near Stirling) - R1b1a2a1a1b4 - 67 - 5
SN67J - McCoy - [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
CH7YZ - Buchanan - Northern Ireland - [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
2BB3C - Pomeroy - Dayton, Ohio, USA [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
2XD3U - L21 Scot at 67 [modal] - Scotland - [R1b1a2] - 67 - 6
--Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
Friday, March 11, 2011
ISLE of SKYE descendant kit #172862
ISLE OF SKYE Descendant - ELDER DNA kit #172862
YSEARCH = 9YGHH
12 marker signature the same as "one of the largest R1b groups in Clan Donald"
13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30
see:
http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?uid=&letter=&lastname=Elder&viewuid=9YGHH&p=0
My ISLE OF SKYE research notes posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Skye.htm
See: "Alexander Macdonald Elder and his father, John Elder",
with:
"MacDonald and Elder, the company that ran the stores in Isle Ornsay in the early 1800s, also acted as emigration agents."
See also Clan Donald DNA project
at
http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org
...."[Clan Donald] signature which begins:
13-24-14-10-11-14-12-12-12-13-13-30
has subsequently been recognized as the modal (most frequent)
signature within the Scottish highlands.
It has variously been referred to as Dalriadic modal and Scots47.
It is one of the largest R1b groups in Clan Donald."
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyP@Teleport.com
YSEARCH = 9YGHH
12 marker signature the same as "one of the largest R1b groups in Clan Donald"
13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30
see:
http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_view.asp?uid=&letter=&lastname=Elder&viewuid=9YGHH&p=0
My ISLE OF SKYE research notes posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Skye.htm
See: "Alexander Macdonald Elder and his father, John Elder",
with:
"MacDonald and Elder, the company that ran the stores in Isle Ornsay in the early 1800s, also acted as emigration agents."
See also Clan Donald DNA project
at
http://dna-project.clan-donald-usa.org
...."[Clan Donald] signature which begins:
13-24-14-10-11-14-12-12-12-13-13-30
has subsequently been recognized as the modal (most frequent)
signature within the Scottish highlands.
It has variously been referred to as Dalriadic modal and Scots47.
It is one of the largest R1b groups in Clan Donald."
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyP@Teleport.com
Saturday, January 22, 2011
Scottish DNA chart at University of Strathclyde
Scottish DNA project - YDNA charts - now divided into 5 pages and new labels
from University of Strathclyde in Glasgow - Host, Bruce Durie
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Scottishdna
25 ELDER kit numbers now posted on Scottish DNA pages (January 21, 2011):
Page 1 - Group 13 - R1b1b2 (M269)
Kit # AS GROUPED ON ELDER CHART
110746 ( Z2 - "Elder/Rose")
26383 ( Z3 - "Elder/Fox of TN")
16176 (Franklin Co PA and NC)
114538 (Franklin Co PA and NC)
Page 2 - Group 13 continued
30720 (Z1 - Elder/McClelland in Scotland Borders)
171586 (Franklin Co PA and KY)
187668 (Franklin Co PA and AL)
155942 (Z4 - Pittenweem, Fife)
35714 (Peter Elder of VA)
20923 (Maine)
Page 3 - Group 13 continued
14778 (Franklin Co PA)/Bedford Co PA
12747 (Franklin Co PA)/Bedford Co PA
10261 (Franklin Co PA)/NC
29820 (Franklin Co PA)/Mercer Co PA
18545 (Franklin Co PA)
132709 (Franklin Co PA)/Wisconsin
10042 (Franklin Co PA)/Wood Co OH
16874 - (Ireland)
Group 19 (green - Wales - R1b1b2a1b) (P312 /S116)
12898
Page 4 - Group 25 (M222) - green - R1b1b2a1b5b - Irish Niall
12969
Page 5 - Group 59 - I2b1 (Viking- Isles - Paxtang PA)
75444 (Paxtang PA)
15534 (Paxtang PA)
50076 (Paxtang PA/Spartanburg SC - Stewart match 66/67)
J2 - Group 82
188265 (Elder/Dorsey of Maryland- Donna Logan's family)
12883 (Elder/Dorsey of Maryland - Donna Logan's family)
from University of Strathclyde in Glasgow - Host, Bruce Durie
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Scottishdna
25 ELDER kit numbers now posted on Scottish DNA pages (January 21, 2011):
Page 1 - Group 13 - R1b1b2 (M269)
Kit # AS GROUPED ON ELDER CHART
110746 ( Z2 - "Elder/Rose")
26383 ( Z3 - "Elder/Fox of TN")
16176 (Franklin Co PA and NC)
114538 (Franklin Co PA and NC)
Page 2 - Group 13 continued
30720 (Z1 - Elder/McClelland in Scotland Borders)
171586 (Franklin Co PA and KY)
187668 (Franklin Co PA and AL)
155942 (Z4 - Pittenweem, Fife)
35714 (Peter Elder of VA)
20923 (Maine)
Page 3 - Group 13 continued
14778 (Franklin Co PA)/Bedford Co PA
12747 (Franklin Co PA)/Bedford Co PA
10261 (Franklin Co PA)/NC
29820 (Franklin Co PA)/Mercer Co PA
18545 (Franklin Co PA)
132709 (Franklin Co PA)/Wisconsin
10042 (Franklin Co PA)/Wood Co OH
16874 - (Ireland)
Group 19 (green - Wales - R1b1b2a1b) (P312 /S116)
12898
Page 4 - Group 25 (M222) - green - R1b1b2a1b5b - Irish Niall
12969
Page 5 - Group 59 - I2b1 (Viking- Isles - Paxtang PA)
75444 (Paxtang PA)
15534 (Paxtang PA)
50076 (Paxtang PA/Spartanburg SC - Stewart match 66/67)
J2 - Group 82
188265 (Elder/Dorsey of Maryland- Donna Logan's family)
12883 (Elder/Dorsey of Maryland - Donna Logan's family)
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